Jungling discussion

hello me again
anyway for brood bushing i agree with rocka its a solo and it outweighs bushing np against a good team they gonna bush hunt you np,or if you like me you bush and lane all at the same time(well not me actually sk.loada ftw) . sentries can be countered easily enough with a bunch of your own.

Enigma getting blink you must understand it will not always be that you required to get items ganking is more important in most cases, unless you only initiate etc.(another thing to consider is the strength of lane who is in it bla bla). A team can have the best items and lose or you can be virtus pro gank with no items and win the game 35 mins np. take your lessons from the king of gankers VIGOSS

besides that axe thingamabob makes double creep pulling so nice OMG
later.

Unless you are really skilled and get get a dagger in under 8min guaranteed, You should never rush a blink on enigma. It will be moredetrimental to ur team as they will be 4 v 5ing for a support hero to get an item... not much sense in that.

Enigma should in general get phase, a couple bracers, wards and maybe a 35-40min blink. Blink is not essential as since Enigma has a channeling ulti, he should not initiate with it as it will be very easy to counter. Enigma's ulti is best utilised as a follow up to another initiation, after some spells that could stop it are already thrown and when enemies begin to cluster as they focus a hero.

Yeah, I've read about that too Doppl3R - to use it as a follow up, rather than initiate. But to be honest, I've never seen anyone who bushes an Enigma not rush a blink stick.

NeoN wrote:Yeah, I've read about that too Doppl3R - to use it as a follow up, rather than initiate. But to be honest, I've never seen anyone who bushes an Enigma not rush a blink stick.

Watch the KOTH match between Mint and I think KS. Assman's bush Enigma is top class.

Yeah, it was KsZA. Only read the article, haven't seen the replay.

neon is right tho alot of pro's rush the blink stick but i said it's situational a lot dont as well their is alot of things to consider(read up).. as for not using enigma as initiate i think its the last idec game where enigma is the only initator and he then rushes his stick... with the dps around him just picking ppl off... yes its nyc to have it as a follow up ulti but since when did good players use things the way its meant to be used?

my point was situations influence items, items do not influence situations

Well they pro, so they can get a guaranteed 8min dagger. So my point still stands. Rushing dagger is very risky cos if u die or get perma harassed, ur team will be vulnerable for that much longer while u farm ur dagger.

hmmmmmmm read up i did not disagree, i did say ganking is more important than farming :/ in most cases

personally i don't find blink usefull on enigma at all. I find blinking in emmediately puts a target on your head for disable, unless u do it towards the end of the battle, in which case you can just walk in.

I'd rather do like you guys say, focus on ganging, get phase boots/bracers and not even bother with a blink.

I reckon it's situational. If you have an AOE strat where you have another initiator who goes first then there's no point. Also if the other team always gets the jump on you and enigma is using ulti as a reaction then the 2150gold (right?) is wasted completely.

At the same time if you're ganging a lot (2v1/2v2/3v2/3v3 type battles) and you dont have another initiator (and your nigma is good enough) a blink dagger might be handy.